Posts by Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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Hi! Long time lurker finally signing up!

by LosingMyReligion in

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ok, so the time has finally come to register an account on this site.

not that i think i have much to contribute to the discussions here, but more out of a desire to show that yet another person has learned ttatt.

i am a fader, not discussing ttatt with anyone as i know the inevitable outcome it would have.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Welcome LMR!

I was at that time not impressed by what i read here though, to me the image of apostates as bitter people was reaffirmed by what I saw here so I didn't pay any attention to any of the material readily available here.

It's hard not to be bitter once we learn TTATT. As a JW, I learned how to be bitter and hostile towards other religions, politics, business, the entire real world. As an exJW that bitterness has been sharpened and focused upon Watchtower Corp.

...hope to gradually plant small seeds in my best friend to make him wake up and see...

In case you're interested in my observations:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/253592/exjw-psychology-101-keeping-your-cool-while-fading?page=1

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/254990/exjw-psychology-102-how-ask-question-when-questions-arent-allowed?page=1

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Watchtower Study today Jan 4 2015 , Fallacious Reasoning (issue Nov 15 2014)

by BluesBrother in

the subject of the study was jesus resurrection .

my post is not about the subject and whether or not that can be believed in.

millions of christians do and it is not my place to debunk religious faith.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

We have even MORE proof that Santa Claus is real:

There are so many books and songs about him.
We have seen not just pictures of him, but can see him in holiday parades and shopping centers.
You can mail letters to Santa.
Children (and some adults) all around the world believe in him and get presents from him.
We have the testimony of myriads of elves that work with him at his North Pole workshop.
Mrs. Claus has faithfully stayed by his side, although Santa has been rumored to have spent time with Ho-ho-hos.
Since we know that the Grinch is real, Santa must be real.

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Pagan Origins

by tinker in

a currently active jdub acquaintance occasionally stops by to say hello and we share a wee dram or two.

after the general small talk of new cars, exotic vacations and sports we often get into the "why" we are xjubs.

he is a well educated publisher who holds a phd in child psychology.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Not only did Jesus and the first century Christians NOT wear neckties, they didn't wear pants!

Trousers have a long non-Judea-Christian history and Jesus in his prehuman existence would have been well aware of their existence and practicality. However, Jesus never wore pants or cheap polyester suits. Why? Clearly because these were associated with pagans including Chinese, Celts, Persians, etc. that were part of Satan's world. Pants were popular with warriors on horseback, so wearing pants would be as acceptable to a true christian as walking around with an AK45 slung over the shoulder.

Rumor has it that an early Church father, Antonio Morrisianium the Thirdian, condemned pants as a tool of pagan homosexuals that in the snugness of their fit caused pagan tingly sexual arousal of Christian naughty parts.

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LDC Semininar

by Sour Grapes in

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ldc semininar @ patterson nov 15-18, 2014 .

entire ldc dept included remote workers/design/legal/real estate/purchasing.

oversight.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

270,000 people in Builder Assist (we want to reduce this down to 30,000)

They used to boast about how they were increasing the numbers because it was all part of the training of the multitudes for all the construction to be done in the "new order". Now they're reducing the number and reference the account of Gideon reducing his army to 300.

Such spin doctors to point to decreases as proof of blessing and growth.

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NEW LIGHT ALERT! TARGET 2015 END TIMES! EVE WAS CREATED 40 YEARS AFTER ADAM! THE END IS NEAR!

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

this is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?

the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.

i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Muddy:
on why 40 years - well, in some of the WT publications, mention is made that 40 years seems to be a biblical precedent for maturity (spiritual maturity) and development.

Actually, 30 years was considered important for maturity. Jesus was 30 when he supposedly began preaching and was based on the Hebrew standard. 40 years was considered "a generation" for those 30 and over to finally die off and be replaced by the next generation.

I was in bethel in 2005. A gilead student explained to me about the 1975 + 30 year speculation. While they considered it "interesting" or maybe even "important", they didn't give it much cred since all the UN and false religion destruction fulfillment would take years and 2005 was already underway.

But the difference between 30 and 40 years doesn't amount to a pile of crap because big A isn't coming in 2015 either.

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The Watchtower 3/15/2015 Parables! New Understanding! plus More!

by wifibandit in

http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.

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Billy the Ex-Bethelite

our publications in recent years have emphasized the lessons we can learn from Bible accounts

Their "simplification" and "Bible accounts emphasized" really just boils down to:

Only the GB/FDS matters.
Believe only what we tell you.
Do exactly what we tell you.
Give all your money to us.

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Early Morning Informal Witnessing, Yay!!

by kairos in

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how many of us would get up and "start your time" by 6:00am or earlier?.

i sure did my fair share and convinced many others to join me semi-regularly.. we'd stand out in front of "somewhere/something", you remember?.

donut shop, 7-11, liquor store ( genius ), driving to laundry rooms or coin-op's, etc... anyway, this past sunday i was pumping fuel for the long trip home early in the morning out of l.a. to norcal, when i spotted a young, energetic version of myself 20 years ago.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

He said I should know better. He said it's all lies and I should know better.

The bottom line is, that's exactly the type of thought-stopping that's cults use.

I spent decades aggressively telling others that THEY needed to critically examine the beliefs and practices of THEIR religions. Yet, I was indoctrinated that critically examining MY JW religion was bad and I should know better.

Can't "the truth" defend itself from examination and criticism? Truth can. Watchtower trooth cannot. Their "nulite" has to continually run away, hide, re-nulite itself, in an effort to escape from the real truth about their false prophecies and greedy materialism. Take off the cult goggles and you see JWs and their GB for what they are--a cult.

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It is the Good News THEY preach now, not of the Bible. Are you as sick of it as I am? New title for Watchtower magazine.

by Wasanelder Once in

i am so sick of this pretend religion that has now come to the point of showing its true colors.

the colors are white and blue.

this picture captures the true purpose of the watchtower these days.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

Hardly more than a year ago and WT was condemning the Interwebs as nothing but apostates and porn. It was "worldly" to waste money on tech gadgets. The Bible and hardcopy publications were to be used, marked up, and littered with sticky notes as proof that someone was spirichul.

Now my parents heads are swimming trying to figure out their iWhatsThis and figure out why they're watching TV at the hall. I guess there's new songs that have to be printed out from the website. Suddenly, the shrinking publications are disappearing all together.

At the rate they're going, many of the prophecies in Revelation will have to be updated to fulfillment with their JW website instead of assemblies at Cedar Point led by Judge Boozerford almost a century ago. Of course, a new "Grand Climax..." book won't be printed. Everyone will have to print out the changes from their website or just use the online copy that is updated daily with new (and ever-changing) light!

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Proud JW.ORG Photos everyone needs to see! The Watchtower Sanctified the Internet for Preaching!

by Trailer Park Pioneer in

i am proud to be a jehovah's witness in the last days, what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the organization?

other religions are preaching about jesus, some wear the crucifixion, other's wear shirts with fishes but we wear shirts with jw.org!

no other religion has our courage!.

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

what religion has done this much to proclaim the message about the Organization? .... No other religion has our courage!

Plenty of religious nutjobs in the Middle East and elsewhere are spilling blood and posting it on the Net. JWs don't even get noticed in the modern world.

You can put a couple of JW.bORG pins on the breasts of a couple of hot sisters and it will get a couple of looks from me. But there are plenty of fish in the sea that aren't in the net of a cult.

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Does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 Yearbook yet?

by berrygerry in

does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 yearbook yet?.

(isn't it usually out by now - or are they waiting to celebrate new year's day?

).

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

2.2% increase in publishers

6.9% increase in anointed

Here's what they need before the next Memorial:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/204491/too-many-partakers-org-help-on-way?size=10&page=1